[pvrusb2] Ability to fully reset a PVRUSB2 Device

Wed Apr 10 22:19:48 CDT 2019

Hi!
Just wondering if you were able to get your setup going and if there's anything I can do to help you
test any fixes you might come up with.
Cheers!

On Sat, 2019-03-16 at 18:16 -0500, isely at isely.net wrote:
> I'd say there's a very good chance of fixing this.  The critical issue for me is getting the time
> to dig into it.  I've been out of this so long that my test setup is boxed up somewhere...
> Once I reproduce the problem I think it's pretty likely I can find a fix.  Odds are that some
> aspects of the USB stack's interface to client drivers has changed in a manner that breaks use of
> it by the pvrusb2 driver.  It's just a matter of figuring that out and dealing with it.  Maybe a
> disconnect callback happening in a way now that the driver doesn't expect.  With this many years
> since the last substantial change, this is certainly possible.
>   -Mike
> 
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2019, Diego Rivera wrote:
> I'd offer to help fix this but I'm not knowledgeable enough in building usbkernel drivers to be of
> much use...
> But any help I can offer is definitely at your disposal.
> Do you think there's any chance of fixing this?
> --
> Diego Rivera
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 17:08 <isely at isely.net> wrote:
> 
> Based on other messages here (which I just now saw), it looks likethere's been a USB stack change
> in the kernel (for who knows how longago) that prevent hot-unplug from working.  That is supposed
> to work.It used to.  Oh joy.
>   -Mike
> 
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2019, Diego Rivera wrote:
> My bigger concern is why the driver is refusing to give up on "bad"devices...
> Also I found a solution for keeping the digital side out of TVH: changethe
> Unix group for dvb devices via udev :)
> I might come up with a more detailed rule only for the 1950s, but for nowthat'll do!
> Cheers!
> --
> Diego Rivera
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 16:27 <isely at isely.net> wrote:
> 
> Short of preventing the digital stuff from being available in thekernel, no.  The driver is set up
> to always exploit whatever it can...
> Catching up on the other replies...
> 
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2019, Diego Rivera wrote:
> Negative on that count either... I unplugged the device and a fewminutes later it's still spewing
> out that message.Side question: is there any way to disable the digital side of thedriver upon
> launch? Maybe a
> parameter that can be passed in?Thanks for responding, too!! I realize this is a stale device but
> Icertainly appreciate your time!
> On Sat, 2019-03-16 at 11:36 -0500, isely at isely.net wrote:
> OK, now unplug it if you haven't already done so.  That shouldbreak
> the connection between the
> driver and the hardware and cause the pvrusb2 driver to eventuallystop crabbing and let
> go.  That's a scenario that I executed A LOT when debugging thedriver...
> (If that doesn't work then there may be another problem.)  -Mike
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2019, Diego Rivera wrote:"On the digital side"... you're right! Turns out TVHeadend
> wasgrabbing the digital side of
> thetuners - I'll have to figure out a way to disable that, since Idon't need that.  That said,
> once Iturned off TVHeadend, modprobe -r no longer complained aboutthe
> module being in
> use.However, it just hung .... and the log is littered with"pvrusb2:
> Attempted to execute
> controltransfer when device not ok"So definitely something's wronghere because either the module
> is definitely caring what happens tothe device(s), or something inthe
> overarching kernel
> framework changed that appears to need updateson the module inorder
> to properly comply... maybe
> USB events were removed/modified that the driverexpects for correctfunctioning?Just shooting
> blanks here... if there's additional debug information that I canprovide, I'll bemore than happy
> to try to rustle that up for you!Cheers!On Sat, 2019-03-16 at 11:26 -0500, isely at isely.net
> wrote:Interesting.The kernel of course will refuse to a remove a moduleuntil all references to it go
> away.The USB side of the pvrus2 driver won't (shouldn't) care sophysically unplugged the USB
> cable(and doing all manner of USB reset attempts) isn't going tohelp
> (or hurt - the driver
> won'tcare).The problem is not that the driver is referencing theUSB
> port but rather that other
> entities arereferencing the driver.  So the first obvious case isto
> ensure nobody has it open
> which youdid.  Another thing to look at is to see what if otherkernel
> modules are referencing
> thedriver.  This might be happening on the digital side.  If yourun
> lsmod to get a list of
> kernelmodules installed you should also see reference counts and alist of what other kernel
> modules arecausing that count to be non-zero.  If there are othermodules listed, then they need
> to beremoved first - lowering the reference count - before you canremove the pvrusb2 driver.Yes,
> it's been a long time since I've messed with this driver, sadly,but
> my recollection is
> thatbasically while the pvrusb2 module will reference a lot ofother
> modules to get its job done,
> Ididn't think there was any kernel modules that could reference thepvrusb2 driver.  When
> thepvrusb2 driver is installed into the running kernel, it will tieitself to the other modules
> thatis needs, but when you modprobe -r pvrusb2, it SHOULD undo allthat.  It's conceivable that
> thesurrounding kernel environment has changed in ways thatinvalidate
> this - though I think if
> thatwere the case I'd see a lot of screaming here :-)  (Eitherthat or
> almost nobody is using
> thisanymore...)  -MikeOn Fri, 15 Mar 2019, Diego Rivera wrote:Hi!I realize it's been MANYyears
> since you've messed with
> this driver, but I figured why not ask?Ifthere's a betterplace/person
> to send this to, please let
> me know and I'll be glad to go knockonthat door instead!Here goes:I
> have a system with two WinTV-
> HVR-1950 devices (long story, still use analog cablehere)which I'vemanaged to get working with
> TVHeadend to supply Analog TV support via thedigitalplatform (yay,me!
> ☺).However, I'm running
> into a problem due likely to the age of one of the devices(probablystartingto get wonky).  Every
> so often one of the devices ceases to function and just "dies".Itneeds tobe physically
> disconnected (or the machine rebooted) to get back to workingorder.
> I'vetried manyapproaches to
> reset the USB bus or the device itself via software but none ofthem
> seemto work:* If I try
> "modprobe -r pvrusb2" I get the error that the module is in use(but I
> have nouserprocesses
> actively using any of the pvrusb2 devices! I've made sure!).* If Itry
> to issueUSBDEVFS_DISCONNECT
> or USBDEVFS_RESET commands via IOCTL, neither works and areboot isnowrequired.* If I try to reset
> the whole USB bus via /sys/bus/pci/drivers/?hci_hcd/unbind andbind,it
> doesn'twork and a reboot is
> now required* If I try to use/sys/bus/usb/drivers/pvrusb2/unbindand
> bind, it does'nt work and a
> reboot is nowrequiredIn the last 3 cases, syslog ends up litteredwith
> the message "pvrusb2:
> Attempted to executecontroltransfer when device not ok", outputcontinually regardless of any
> attempt to rebind.  Thissuggeststhat once the device is "not ok"(dead?), the driver doesn't
> attempt to clean it up(should it?)Is there any other way to force afull reset and
> reinitialization of a pvrusb2 device viasoftwarewithout actuallyhaving to disconnect/reconnect
> the device or reboot the machine?Thanks!
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